I’ll start by quoting my Facebook status update from just last May:

“Dear decent white people on the interwebs,

Get your cousins.
Get your cousins, get your friends, get your fo’ folk, your aunties, your great grand uncles, your sister’s cousin baby momma’s auntie friend Sally, Jessie AND Raphael. Get your neighbor. Get your neighbor’s neighbor. Get your whoooooole neighborhood watch. Shit, get the whole damn white delegation.
GET YO PEOPLE!!!!!!

Thanks with love,
Black management”

Of course the post gave a bunch of my followers a good chuckle, but I’d be remiss if I didn’t recognize and examine the fact that it came much more from a place of frustration than levity.
I was tired…

I was tired from sacrificing a few million once perfectly healthy brain cells reading through the comment sections of race-based web articles – thread after thread, chock full of black folks trying to navigate oblivious whiteness. At some point we really need to ask ourselves why we even bother. Why are we losing solid hours out of our day, wearing our fingertips numb on keyboards and touch screens in attempt to explain to some dense ass dude-bro why “All lives matter” is a fucked up and functionally redundant response to “Black lives matter”?

My people, please trust me when I tell you, we’ve spelled it out for white America a hundred different ways that their beloved police forces, all over this nation, are abounding with officers who are simply more volatile, fearful and prone to harassment and abuse of power when dealing with us – and it’s costing us our lives. We’ve laid out all the statistics and all of our millions of personal testimonies and we have made it amply clear that, while the subject of police brutality, as a sensationalized national discussion covered by mainstream media, is a relatively new phenomenon, it is an issue as old our involuntary occupation of this country. With all of this information readily available and reiterated ad nauseam, it’s beyond ridiculous that the simple words “black lives matter” require any added explanation at all. And yet, here we are coming up with a dozen analogies trying to, even further, simplify it.

We out here like…

“Uh… uh, hey man,
You wouldn’t go to a cancer rally shouting ‘All diseases matter’ would ya?”

“Uhh hey Scottie,
‘Save the rain forest’ doesn’t mean ‘fuck all the other forests'”

“Hey…hey, wait a minute Kip… Greg… Jon… Connor… Pattie… Mayonnaise…
When a house is burning you don’t turn the fire hose on some non burning house because #AllHousesMatter”

Y’all, can we please STOP THIS SHIT?!

Never mind the fact that we are now juxtaposing the fate of inanimate objects with the fate of black lives in hopes that it’ll aid us in garnering empathy – We need to stop acting like white people don’t take the same reading comprehension portions of standardized tests all through middle and high school that we do – they know how the fuck analogies work. They got it the first time – they just didn’t care.

If they really considered the affirmation of one life mattering to be a denial of the same for all others, then they would consider “Blue Lives Matter” to be just as offensive as “Black Lives Matter” – but they don’t.

Not only are they unoffended by #BlueLivesMatter, but – while they consider any concession or policy change aimed at countering black vulnerability to be unearned special treatment (oh, the irony) – they actively advocate giving police officers protected class status, completely oblivious of the fact that they already have it.

Only, I’m not sure they’re legitimately oblivious. I mean, these mother fuckers live here too, right?

They know damn well there isn’t a state, city or county in this country where the penalties for crimes committed against cops aren’t a hell of a lot steeper than they are for civilians. They know they don’t need a protest, riot or hash tag to ensure that thorough investigations will be done to bring cop killers to justice. They’re not worried about dead cops being put on trial for their own murders. They’re not worried about a not guilty verdict for the murderers of police officers or even a reluctance to bring charges. No one’s looking into a dead cops record fishing for reasons to justify his/her demise. They know good and well that cops have the federal and local governments, the “blue wall” and the delusional admiration of the vast majority of (white) America in their corner.

So how could anyone possibly believe that we, as a society and as a system, don’t already do everything in our collective powers to ensure that value be placed on police lives?

Could it be that white people actually aren’t as concerned with supporting the police as they are in maintaining a counter narrative to black complaints about racist police misconduct? Could it be that their counter narratives to race issues in general are largely disingenuous and, often, just fucking spiteful?

Could it be… and I’m just spit-balling here…

But, could white folks just be… like… completely full of shit?

This is why I submit that black people should simply disengage with white America in discussions about race all together. Let them have their little Klan-esque circle-jerks in the Yahoo and USA Today comment sections. We need to stop arguing with them because, in the end, they aren’t invested like we are. They aren’t paying attention to these stories out of fear for their lives and the lives of their children and spouses, they are only tuned in out of black and brown contempt. This shit is trivial to them. It’s all a pissing contest to see who can be the most smug and condescending – and ultimately dismissive. When we debate these issues, we do so passionately – albeit, not always very articulate and often without a whole lot of depth to our arguments – but we always come from a place of genuine frustration, outrage and fear. When most white people debate the very same issues from an opposing stance, they do so from a place of perpetual obtuseness and indifference and their arguments always pretty much boil down to “If it isn’t my experience it couldn’t possibly be yours.” Even “well meaning” white folks tend to center them-fragile ass-selves in the discussion (#NotAllWhitePeopleOnFleek #IDontSeeColor #IveAlwaysBeenGoodToYouPeople #KumbayaMyLordKumbayaBitches). The fact is, they, both figuratively and literally, have no skin in the game.

Don’t get me wrong, white people are mad. They’ve gone their whole lives being the default for social and cultural normalcy and never really had to think critically about race at all. Now, social media comes along and suddenly their micro-aggressions are constantly being identified and challenged and their privilege is being shoved back down their unsuspecting throats. They’re getting the tint snatched off of their rose color glasses and that “Shiny City on the Hill” they know as America is starting to lose some of it’s gloss. And they ain’t here for that shit – but we are.

So we need to let them cry. Let them gripe about how white is the new black and they are now the true victims of racism because their black coworkers don’t invite them to lunch or some black guy on the train called them a cracker or, of course, because black people on the interwebs hurt…their…little…irrelevant ass… feelings. How nice it must be to have the option of simply loging off of your oppression.

We need to let them cry because, let’s face it people, white tears are delicious. They’re the most perfect blend of sweet and salty since fuckin’ Sour Patch Kids. But we need to learn how to just sit our intellectual selves back and enjoy them.

When Rachel Dolezal got her counterfeit ass black card snatched along with her counterfeit ass edges, we struck comedy gold for black meme makers all over the web. The “Ask Rachel” hashtag was born and scrolling through your Black Twitter feed became something like running a marathon. Only, the people on the sidelines were handing out little paper cups full of white tears instead of regular ol’ drinking water. But instead of enjoying ourselves, far too many of us were arguing with smug fucking white people about why this is completely different from Caitlyn Jenner and why this doesn’t, in any way, make “black privilege” a thing.

When Beyoncé released the video for Formation, featuring a black kid in a hoodie, a “Hands up, don’t shoot” banner and a sinking police car – then performed the song while paying homage to the Black Panther Party during the Super Bowl halftime show (and thus right smack in the face of white America) – she provided us with a bottomless open bar of white tears. But, instead of getting good and damn drunk like we should’ve been, too many of us were arguing with white folks about why nothing she did was racist, “reverse racist” or anti cop. We should’ve just took the win and let their asses cry.

Just a few weeks ago during the RNC, Melania Trump plagiarized a chunk of Michelle Obama’s DNC speech. And a lot of y’all were out here arguing with Trump supporters and other assorted delusional white folks who had the audacity to claim there was never any plagiarism at all. What you should’ve been doing was joining me, Jesse Williams and our beloved Black Twitter in intentionally misattributing black quotes to her dumbass… because… duh… it was fun.

Shit, I had a field day:

“Until you do right by me, everything you even think about gonna crumble” – Melania Trump

“When he fuck me good I take his ass to Red Lobster, cuz I slay” – Melania Trump

“The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.” – Melania Trump

Right now we have George Zimmerman getting knocked the fuck out in the street, Dylan Roof getting the dog shit beat out of him in prison, viral video of a black woman stomping the hell out of a white man for calling her a “nigger bitch” and black girl magic oozing all over the 2016 Olympics – And we have a sea of white spectators watching us celebrate ourselves and getting aggravated. And to all of this, I say “cheers”.

The fact is, we can fight systemic racism without white validation. We can continue shutting down bridges and highways every time there’s a new Alton Sterling, Philando Castile or Korryn Gaines in the news and let white folks complain about the intrusion on there lives. We can continue moving our black dollars into black banks and take steps towards removing ourselves from the mainstream economy altogether and keeping our money in our businesses and communities. We don’t need them to “get it” for us to keep fighting.

And likewise, white people who truly want to be allies can find their path to ally-ship without black validation and without us having to take time out of our days to educate them. They can find their own curriculum and figure out for themselves how they can do their part in fighting the good fight. And, again, they can do so without the promise of black praise. I’m no longer asking decent white people to “get their cousins”, I’m only expecting them to “get” themselves. And, I’m not even about to keep checking to see if they’re doing that much. Because it’s not my goddamn job – and it’s not yours either.

Black people, it is long past time for us to start practicing in self care. And if that means completely disengaging with white America altogether, then so be it.
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157 thoughts on “Why It’s Time Black People Simply Disengage With White People In Discussing Race

    1. Thanks for your rational and artistic expression of this linear truth. Those that fail to articulate these basic tenements have no place in the leadership of Black Americans.

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    2. Not an American, but from a country with a little history of its own. And one in which not an indecent ministry of white people still ‘didn’t know what was on’ and who miraculously ‘didn’t benefit one jot from apartheid’ and I have this thought: as a default ‘normative’ group, there’s one little human behaviour that being in this group requires of one if one is to remain asleep during a nightmare – and it’s called DENIAL. As a partial member of thy group, my gay self had to partially wake up. But make no mistake, only partially. See, denial applies to more than just groupings. It applies to a financial system that appears to buy us happiness. But actually it endentures all in its trap. It applies to a legal system that favours those with cash for freedom. Let’s not even start on medical fairness or educational. Please understand; not even not understanding Black Lives Matter is about black lives. Oh no. It’s about a tiny ray of light that suggests maybe things are not fair after all. Maybe we’re all screwed. Don’t you get it? We want in: the capacity of white victimhood knows NO bounds. Starting with just one thing inconceivably being NOT ABOUT US. You couldn’t be more right. You must engage with us less. Nothing is noisier to a cultural narcissist than silence.

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    3. Having these discussions with the desired outcome of convincing the most ignorant of white people to open their minds to this, is a practice in futility. Know this though, what you are speaking up about is getting through to many white people, as it has me. Please don’t stop engaging! We need to hear this! It’s not going to be easy for a lot of people to shift their awareness and perspectives, but any incremental shift can start the ball rolling.

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      1. Absolutely believe that anyone interested can ask me for answers to VALID questions for REAL UNDERSTANDING. Not going to banter.

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  1. I’ll never get on a soap box talking to anybody about anything. But if an individual wants to have a sincere conversation, I’m all for it. But the moment they try and act like i’m the one who doesn’t get it, I’ll shut it down, and tune them right on out!

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    1. As a white person who agrees with BLM and this post I appreciate that this recognized it is ok to be an ally. There legitimate people who hate injustice and i don’t want to see people i care about wronged in the way that the black community has been. I dont like that i have to worry for People i grew up with, friends, neighbors and classmates because they might meet someone who wants to kill them. I have stopped trying with a few of my racist relatives and i am honestly better off. They know what i am saying but choose willful ignorance over being a decent human being. Not many white people are used to something not being for them. So naturally they either get mad or whine and try to take charge. We can never know what it is like to live life in a black skin. We can stop and decide to listen to what black people have to say instead of trying to step in a solve the problem so people can say how kind we are. I can’t for the life of me, understand why this inequality is ok for anyone. It should make white people sick that so much was taken. I know i dont want something i dont truly deserve. Getting the job over someone better qualified because i actually got an interview cause my name sounded like i look a certain way… that isnt how i want to win. There are so many examples but i dont need to tell you.
      Sorry i know i am long winded.

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      1. As a white person, though, it is YOUR responsibility to keep engaging with those relatives. The whole point of this piece is that it’s time that BLACK folks disengage. It’s not our responsibility – it’s YOURS. You are not a true ally if you’re not engaging those with whom you disagree.

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  2. Wow!! You managed to sum up everything I have felt. I have to agree with an earlier post you wrote the HELL out of that. Thank you…..I’m officially disengaged.

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  3. You can’t educate the ignorant that want to stay ignorant. These are the people to avoid in life, as they think what they already know is all the need to know.
    White people who understand the black lives matter have a hard time trying to educate their friends and family that this is not a slogan against them, it is about awareness of what is happening in our country, and reminds us that we still have a long way to go til we reach the belief by everyone everywhere, that
    “all men are created equal, and that each of us is endowed with certain inalienable rights,”……

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  4. You (blacks native americans)have sufferers ethnic cleansing & apartheid for 200 years.You thinks whites want equality do you think they wouldn’t love to bring back slavery & or segregagtion.White Americans have been shaped as white slave owners so deep down in their psyche they are still in that dark place.That’s why young white college kids still call blacks nigga,it’s because they still believe you are animals.The whites want to go back to the days of white supreme power because they loved it. (This is o my what I think that the whites think)Don’t waste your time trying to explain equality harmony and peace to them because they are still sick in their minds they still think they own blacks.The best way to fuck the vile creatures over is to get thousands of black people into political power.It’s ok to obviously kill a few cops now & again to show your not pussies but long term the only way to beat the white is to copy his a game step by step.Obama is good but you need a hundred Obamas in all states pulling constitutional strings and changing society from the top.zThe whites can be trained to be civilized but you must treat them like a dumb animal with no morals or reason.

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    1. COPY crackas as THE way to defeat crackas at runnin game????

      hell NO!!!

      WE NEED not 2b SUBJECT to–SUBORDINATE to–cracka folly.

      Mother Nature gonna HAVE to SMITE crackas.

      A. dey aint got enuf BLOOD to bleed in punishment for dey GROSS sins against HUMANITY & NATURE.

      B. punishing dem muthafuckas REQUIRE way too much bloodshed for 500 YEARS of fucked up SINS (DISfuckinREGARDING a people’s HUMANITY).

      what dey gonna do when da bill come due???…

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      1. @Laffinatcha , I speak it. Marlin Hill is definitely smarter and more civilized than you. I’ll bet he has a graduate degree. He’s multilingual. You’re just not the intended audience. His message was received. Nothing to see here. Thank you Sam, for your empathy. However, in the words of MLK, ‘hate can not drive out hate. Only love can do that. ‘ In the words of Michelle Obama, “When they go low, we go high.”

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      1. This article has nothing to do with interracial marriages and relationships. It is talking about not taking the bait from white people on the internet who want to troll discussions about race, much like your comment.

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    2. Part of the reason young white college kids use the word “nigga” is because young black kids use it themselves. Let’s be real. A lot of the white allies we do have in the fight against racism are mostly millenials. But if you want to be completely correct those with that mentality would be saying “nigger” not “nigga”. However you spell it it is still a negative and hateful word that I wish all blacks would shun from their language.

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      1. The only white college kids who use “nigga” are not familiar or close to black communities. The vast majority of young white people who live in or near a big city on the west coast do not say nigga. Even in my high school white people who said nigga were looked at weirdly.

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  5. You (blacks native americans)have suffererd ethnic cleansing & apartheid for 200 years.You think whites want equality do you think they wouldn’t love to bring back slavery & or segregagtion.White Americans have been shaped as white slave owners so deep down in their psyche they are still in that dark place.That’s why young white college kids still call blacks nigga,it’s because they still believe you are animals.The whites want to go back to the days of white supreme power because they loved it. (This is what I think that the whites think)Don’t waste your time trying to explain equality harmony and peace to them because they are still sick in their minds they still think they own blacks.The only way to beat the white is to copy his a game step by step.Obama is good but you need a hundred Obamas in all states pulling constitutional strings and changing society from the top.The whites can be trained to be civilized but you must treat them like a dumb animal with no morals or reason.

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  6. This is a great article and you speak the truth! I am one of those of whom you speak with one major exception. I troll the conservative rags and challenge all the stupid comments that I see. But….I’m not trying to educate or change their minds. It’s sport to me. It is fun to disrupt their little parties. On these pages they support and hi five each other in their ignorance and then I invade their page and like a fox in a hen house, lay waste to their stupidity . A few of them who have memorized crime statistics and try to use them as their “drop the mike moments” run away and hide as soon as they realize I know them too but with the proper interpretation. I do admit it’s not all fun and games for me. I get annoyed when I see people like Kayleigh McEnany on Anderson Cooper 360 last night say erroneous things like, “there were 2000 murders in Chicago this year” and get away with it. So maybe its therapy. I get joy from knowing that at least these bunch of ignorant idiots didn’t get away their crap. At the end of the day what did it really accomplish? Probably nothing…but I felt better.

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  7. I felt the same exact way from a way back, they are not with us, if you look at the media closely they never even sympathize with us, instead they invite one person if color they feel represents all persons of color and televise their pain just to show how hopless and helpless they are. The last time I seen DL weep on live television “IT’S TOO MUCH” was my last stroll, it’s time for something else, done with the mockery.

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  8. This is a great article and you speak the truth! I am one of those of whom you speak with one major exception. I troll the conservative rags and challenge all the stupid comments that I see. But….I’m not trying to educate or change their minds. It’s sport to me. It is fun to disrupt their little parties. On these pages they support and hi five each other in their ignorance and then I invade their page and like a fox in a hen house and lay waste to their stupidity . A few of them who have memorized crime statistics and try to use them as their “drop the mike moments” run away and hide as soon as they realize I know them too but with the proper interpretation. I do admit it’s not all fun and games for me. I get annoyed when I see people like Kayleigh McEnany on Anderson Cooper 360 last night say erroneous things like, “there were 2000 murders in Chicago this year” and get away with it. So maybe its therapy. I get joy from knowing that at least these bunch of ignorant idiots didn’t get away their crap. At the end of the day what does it really accomplish? Probably nothing…but I feel better.

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  9. I absolutely agree that the burden of teaching white people should not fall on any race I love black people I have black children and they are being raised with the respect to,human race to never trust what anyone else’s feelings but their own I believe that Black lives matters in every way there is good bad and evil in every race religion and in every career choice we need to educate ourselves and stop conforming to popular demand. Love thy neighbor but most importantly love thy self #may God bless us all

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  10. Thank you for expressing what I’ve been feeling for a while now. It is not up to us to convince white people of our humanity. That we have to do that in any situation means we’ve already lost the battle. The fact that they don’t see as more than 3/5 human, is on that’s on them and is something they are going to have to answer for. We’ve got bigger fish to fry. We don’t need white people’s approval for us to prosper.

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  11. DL, you are a brilliant man and I love you. I am white and work everyday to understand more. But I don’t know because I will never walk in your shoes. I will always stand with you because you are absolutely right.

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  12. So well written. I especially liked ‘white people who truly want to be allies can find their path to ally-ship without black validation and without us having to take time out of our days to educate them.’ To me this is NOT a contest to see how many black people like me or how many I can convince that I’m really, really on their side. This is about doing what’s right and just and necessary and long overdue. I will continue to argue the case, try to educate those who are open, help however I can, ignore the ignorant, cheer when you have a win or laugh when the white people who feel wronged cry. Yes I’ll even do that happily in the face of skepticism or contempt that other people who look like me have ‘earned’.

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  13. I am here for all of this! You did an amazing job summing this up!! However, i don’t even know if i can stop, i get soooo frustrated…smh, but I’m gonna try. And honey yes, didn’t we tear Rachel and Melania’s ass up??!!

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  14. I have brought my favorite mug for all the white tears and I am here for this article. Well said! Ima pick up some of this sprinkling of black ass magic and apply it to my black ass life and thrive, let the church say Amen.

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  15. Your choice of being a “color” and not a citizen is your vulnerability. Your vulgar cursing shows a closed mind. Your repetitive racial masturbation is indicitive of your uninterest in being part of a solution. You only see the outside being responsible for the lack of bravery you have to stand in the crowd and say,” It isn’t them, it is us. We are the ones causing our own problems. We choose not to be fathers, acedemics, volunteers and positive role models. Instead we blame whitey. We expect them to help us when we don’t even know how we broke it. We carry history on our backs like a weight than can’t be lifted. We carry each other and protect each other even when we know there are hoodlums, thiefs, vandals, drug dealers, fathers who abandon children, women who see abortion as birth control and gun runners. We blame whitey for everything and ignore the fact we bring it all on our selves. Our people captured us, sold us to other tribes to sold us to slave boats. Many of our kind bought and sold us as slave workers. 50% of the captured tribesmen and women were shipped off and sold in Brazil. Much of the slave labor was sold to Blacks throughout the Caribbean a d Central America before the 13 colonys gained their independence from England. Many of the colonists were also slaves to the British empire. Yes, it took us 50 more years for complete emancipation but we ignore the successful slave business owners, plantation owners and acedemics. Not every massa beat us or raped us. We don’t even know those people but, we act as if we do. We never recognize the successful Africans that were taken to the north as free men who also sought higher education, fought to end the feudalistic economy of the south. Those who moved to the south after the Civil War to help rebuild and educate the survivors. We don’t talk about the blacks who eagerly took the 50 acres and a mule then became very successful farmers, ranchers, cowboys, miners, ministers, loyal fathers, entrepreneurs and large land owners. We choose to forget that Dallas Texas was founded by the black Jamacian slave traders known as the Dallas family. We argue that we have nothing but, we had much when we had our own tow s and trades. We fail to remember that Dr Martin Luther King Junior achieved much more than we do today because he wore a suit, stood strong and peaceful. He had dignity, an education, noble temperament, and wisdom. We don’t use that any more. We choose apathy, self hate, indifference to each others well being. We harm and kill. We rape and violate. We laugh when we break the law then dare officials to uphold the law. We turn a blind eye to the problems we create. We laugh at our grandparents for their choice to live life with pride, while we choose to live under educated and ignorant.
    We hate ourselves for what we do to our own lives and blame it on whitey. It’s no wonder why so few hate us yet practically all of them really care and help. We are selfish knowing that we can provide for ourselves vut, would rather demand things for free. We know that free things are cheap. Free things will never be the quality hard working people have. But, who Wants to be a successful black person. They are only trying to become white, right! We don’t need no education we black, reading is fo whitey. I cant talk right but, I’ll buy bling, a grill, air jordans and expensive tattoos. My clothes, game and liquor I use to catch my piece of ass. Don’t worry the more kids the larger the welfare check right! We are what we call our selves. And whitey understands and sees it. What whitey doesn’t understand is why we blame him for the way we fuck up our lives. Whitey will no longer be a majority in 50 years, the hispanics and Asians will. They wont give us anything because they earned everything and had much less than we do. We will continue to blame. We will continue to be violent. But, when whitey is no longer able to give us things for free, we will still blame whitey for the way everyone else hates us. Will we grow as a people, the 17% of Americans Us blacks? No, because our problems come from 1% 0f us and we have allowed them to represent 100% of us. And its still whites fault.”

    You’ll never have the courage to say the truth in a crowd of the 1%. You will cowardly say it to the 1% whowork hard and who you think have lost their “blackness”. You are the apathy. You are the harbinger of hate. You fail to inspire leadership, friendship, fellowship, acedemic achievement, love for seniors, civics, social responsibility, neighborhood pride, environmental awareness, parental responsibity and confidence in hard work earns success. It’s easier to bitch than to take responsibility. Next time someones threatens you don’t call 911. They’ll only send a cop. If someone is shooting at your family and the cop shoots that thug … Dont forget to call BLM, the New Black Panthers and burn down your neighborhood. Because that cop saved your life.
    You can make a difference. Free the nation from history and emancipate the United States from the small minded few that drag you down for cheap profit. Cause it aint whitey.
    God bless you, Peace and Love

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      1. Wow. Where to start.
        First, black women are the most educated demographic in the country, and took every medal during the Olympics. Beyonce, now that she has achieved power and status, is making her statements obvious rather than covert, showing us yet another black female role model. Neil DeGrasse Tyson, LeVar Burton, and Barack Obama are three highly respected, prominent black male role models. So, the role model argument is invalid.
        (Also, check out 100blackmen.org.)

        Black people who built towns, stock markets, banks, any kind of self-sustaining independent environment have been repeatedly murdered and had their accomplishments burned to the ground by white people who couldn’t handle ‘uppity’ black people. Even black-run social programs, like the Black Panthers, were demonized and disassembled. Even today, black people driving new cars or walking through middle-class neighborhoods become targets simply for being successful. So, the do things to better yourselves without asking for handouts argument is invalid.

        Every race has criminals of all kinds. The difference is that black people get punished for them, while white rapists get off with slaps on the wrist (if that). There is a standard of perfection applied to black boys and men which simply doesn’t apply to their white counterparts. A white boy being destructive is just being a boy, doing what comes naturally. A black boy being destructive is a criminal. The black people are criminals argument is invalid.

        “Dr Martin Luther King Junior achieved much more than we do today because he wore a suit, stood strong and peaceful.” Bullshit. He was angry as hell, but you don’t hear about that because his history has been whitewashed. Point two, he was shot for his trouble, along with many, many other black people who attempted to better themselves. White society doesn’t want to let them better themselves. Appropriation of MLK is invalid.

        As for the rest of your stereotyped, Fox news regurgitated, out-of-touch commentary, it’s not worth my time. You remind me of my ex husband; he isolated me, wouldn’t give me access to transportation or money, refused to buy what I needed to keep the house up (basic cleaning supplies)… and then verbally assaulted me because he was living in a dirty house. He took everything from me, and still expected me to be able to succeed.

        Tl;dr- You proved the author’s point, you ignorant ass.

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      2. Wow. Where to start.
        First, black women are the most educated demographic in the country, and took every medal during the Olympics. Beyonce, now that she has achieved power and status, is making her statements obvious rather than covert, showing us yet another black female role model. Neil DeGrasse Tyson, LeVar Burton, and Barack Obama are three highly respected, prominent black male role models. So, the role model argument is invalid.
        (Also, check out 100blackmen.org.)

        Black people who built towns, stock markets, banks, any kind of self-sustaining independent environment have been repeatedly murdered and had their accomplishments burned to the ground by white people who couldn’t handle ‘uppity’ black people. Even black-run social programs, like the Black Panthers, were demonized and disassembled. Even today, black people driving new cars or walking through middle-class neighborhoods become targets simply for being successful. So, the do things to better yourselves without asking for handouts argument is invalid.

        Every race has criminals of all kinds. The difference is that black people get punished for them, while white rapists get off with slaps on the wrist (if that). There is a standard of perfection applied to black boys and men which simply doesn’t apply to their white counterparts. A white boy being destructive is just being a boy, doing what comes naturally. A black boy being destructive is a criminal. The black people are criminals argument is invalid.

        “Dr Martin Luther King Junior achieved much more than we do today because he wore a suit, stood strong and peaceful.” Bullshit. He was angry as hell, but you don’t hear about that because his history has been whitewashed. Point two, he was shot for his trouble, along with many, many other black people who attempted to better themselves. White society doesn’t want to let them better themselves. Appropriation of MLK is invalid.

        As for the rest of your stereotyped, Fox news regurgitated, out-of-touch commentary, it’s not worth my time. You remind me of my ex husband; he isolated me, wouldn’t give me access to transportation or money, refused to buy what I needed to keep the house up (basic cleaning supplies)… and then verbally assaulted me because he was living in a dirty house. He took everything from me, and still expected me to be able to succeed.

        Tl;dr- You proved the author’s point, you ignorant ass.

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    1. 1. When you are born in america a race is assigned to you. When you take the census a race is assigned to you. When you are in public school a race is assigned to you. Explain to me again the “choice” of being a color.

      2. I don’t think anyone is expecting white people to help them. We don’t trust them, why would we ask them to help us fight themselves. One of our main problems (us black people in america) is that we expect white people to adhere to the moral arguments they try to pin us down with. Nothing could be further from the truth, most white-minded people confuse morality with legality so that is a losing battle because white people make the laws so it will always favor their way of thinking. Ever wonder why the laws we are expected to abide by are never taught in plain English in public school? Why do we need lawyers/attorneys to interpret the law? Why a good legal defense is so expensive? Look at the majority of people that skirt the law on a morally criminal act. White boys getting off with no time on rape charges “because it will affect them getting into college” and Nate Parker is basically being retried for legal issue he was cleared of since college (if you can see the hypocrisy in this statement, reread the first part of this section).

      3. Slavery in Africa at the time was more like indentured servitude. It wasn’t until america made it legal to force slaves to bare slave children like cattle. At the time slavery was how white people became a success in america, morality was a foreign concept. Black people saw it as a road to riches, I am not excusing it because wrong is wrong, but I am not using it to condone slavery either, which in a way is what you are doing. Nowadays is has become very profitable to put black and brown people in prison. If I were to compare, it would be similar if black people started to invest in the prison industrial complex. A black person profiting from the enslavement of black and brown people.

      4. MLK didn’t achieve anything on his own. It was the threat black people standing up for themselves and fighting back that changed policy. MLK was a good negro to pin it on so black people for generations would think taking a beating without fighting back was a form of activism. Black people organizing and operating as an independent body (and an independent economy) is what really scared white people back then: Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, even post turn the other cheek MLK (2 out of those 3 ended up assassinated, the other got deported) SIDENOTE: MLKs inspiration, Gandhi, had a similar situation is India. If the threat of more “radical” Indian revolution wasn’t looming what reason would the English have to capitulate?

      5. Every capitalist wants something for free (or at least cheaper). Those big white corporations get away with paying little to no taxes. Those same companies would higher prisons to supply dirt cheap labor. And speaking of slavery AKA free labor was the bedrock in which america was built.

      6. I can’t help but point out that you are making assumptions based on stereotypes so it is confusing to me when you say “we”. Who is this we you are talking about. I used to feel people that said being book smart is acting white were just ignorant, but looking at some of these scholars (white and black) that like to quote statistics and rattle off emotionless college words, I can see the logic. When you use your educated mind to talk around an issue instead of address it directly IT IS VERY WHITE. Me throwing a bunch of SAT words at you isn’t communicating, it is masturbation. It seems the main reason today’s racism is inconceivable to white people, is that there isn’t a metric for it. They claim to need numbers and statistics to validate something as being truthful, but what about 911 (or 9/11 for that matter)? It is easier for white people to believe non-white people are criminals and hates them for their freedom, or their hard work, or their whiteness than it is to take their heads out from between their legs, look up and see what affect their policies and laws have on people that don’t look like them. White people’s government have been killing civilians in Arab nations for decades; white people’s police have been killing non-white people for centuries under the guise of enforcing their laws.

      7. Let’s not talk about courage. white americans rewrote american history to make themselves look like the superheroes. The full story is not that flattering. All we ask for is truth, honesty, and righteousness. We ask not to be judged by the weakest limbs of our tree while white america (and their darker hued puppets) chops at our roots and refuse to address their strange fruit, but to paraphrase what the author of this post said, “Fuck em”.

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  16. I got all of my life from digesting this!!! Your article was powerful, inspirational and straight to the point kind of READ!! Loved every verb, noun and adjective!!

    Slay!

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  17. Do us. You don’t see Jews out there tryna convince neo Nazis. You don’t see other groups doing what we are doing. Point blank Black folks tryna argue with Whites for white acceptance of our pain both past and present. Do us. There were tons of comments when Blacks are putting money in black owned banks from whites. Why? It was a first step to a parallel economy. Financial independence and with that true power. Get the masses of black folks helping each other and its a game changer. Their biggest fear. Forget trying to argue/debate makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Create our own and it solves most stuff, not all but it massively improves things including police abuse. There are no economic/political consequences denying blacks rights but there is for gays, jews, women, etc. why? They have the financial or political power to punish you. Gays can punish North Carolina. Jews can punish you. No consequence other than marching and then go home for blacks. Do us people. Its your ONLY hope.

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  18. Nice. I needed that laugh for the day.
    You definitely made me chuckle through the whole story and it is just that a story.

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  19. This is THE BEST EVER article I have EVER read and yes, “white people are full of shit,” I should know! I have no idea who wrote this piece. But I’ve got to find you. We NEED to have a conversation and I am not a white savior. Please please please find me. So much to share. My grown kids have told me (I am 71 years old), that I am a militant Black woman trapped in an old white woman’s body. But I’m not. I’m thinking more along the lines of a Black Panther trapped in here. Don’t know how much time I have left. Went into Watts after the 1965 riots in L.A. Long history of activism. My mother’s fault. If we didn’t go into Watts with her to do a music thing at a church she was going to kick her five daughters out of the house. So we went. Terrified? Hell yeah. Best thing that ever happened to me! So what is your name? How do I find you? I’m on Facebook. Lana Bogan. Can’t believe there are 3 Lana Bogan’s, but I’m the old white one. Your article had me laughing so hard it was therapeutic. It’s been a long time since I have laughed like that. And then I could feel the painful futility of it all. Everything, and I mean every word you wrote was true. I refuse to give up on the Black Lives Matter Movement. It is a peaceful Revolution. It has to continue. I remember when I used that phrase with a person who of course responded with the All Lives Matter thing. I paused and then I said. “Did you assume I didn’t already know that?” My heart says that whites voices matter. It’s like the two wings of a bird. I don’t say that to folks, but I believe it in my soul.

    I’ve rambled on. I beg you to find me. You’re f#%€ing brilliant!
    Lana
    GRANDmother!

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    1. Hey, my name is Zack Linly. Actually you can see my bio at the end of the post now (I was having difficulty setting that up). Thank you so much for the kind words and for sharing your story. You can find me on Facebook under Zack Linly. Thanks again.

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  20. I just died and was resurrected and then died again. Spoiler alert, I had to be resurrected once again to THANK YOU. This is EVERY.THING. I have so many allies in my timeline. So many people who truly want to understand and who aren’t the type of people who “do these things,” but I still am left dealing with their “feelings” about it and trying not to “hurt” their feelings and fighting their obtuse friends in the comments. And do not even let me get started on the black naysayers and deniers. It’s pathetic. Utterly pathetic. A few weeks ago, I decided I was done. This PERFECTLY validates that decision. You are so brilliantly articulate with this and you just took me through every emotion I’ve had over the last few years on the topic and back to…Black. I’m gonna just let it goooooo. You are correct, we must practice self-care, webuyblack.com, move our money into black banks, support each other, champion ourselves. BE FREAKING GREAT. And, if that comes with a side of white tears, drink that sh$! up like red Kool-Aid at the Memorial day cookout 😉 LOVE IT!!!!!

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  21. Growing up I thought I knew what racism was. I never understood it, and rejected those who never stopped spewing bile. I thought I knew that only a small percentage of my white familly freinds and neighbors were obviously racist, and a few more were silent about it.

    I thought i raised my kids right. Thought I taught them to be color blind, and to see the ugly in their relatives. I thought I was different because i love cities and exploring them, and I despise the suburbs. My sons girlfreind was black (was, they both died from a drunk driver), and my freind and business partner is black. So I thought i was dofferent. I thought things were getting better.

    Then Obama ran for president and the ugly started being obvious. The codes were used less and straight out bigotry was easy for me to see. I thought I’d seen how horrid our nation still was.

    Then along came Trump. Suddenly it was the 70s again with racist shit back out in the open.

    But thats not what opened my eyes to just how blind I was. How blind I was to the extent of my privilege. How blind I was to how shitty we as whites are. What opened my eyes was the shootings and Black Lives Matter. i thought i understood how bad it was when cops dealt with non whites. I was bone chilling to watch those videos and to see how stupid I was.

    Then. To see my own freinds spew all lives matter and reverse racism. To argue the same points many of you have made here, only to be stunned at how much I was arguing with tone deaf ears.

    Thats when I got that I dont get it. Thats when I started noticing the little things I do that perpetuate racism that I didnt know where there.

    I’m 49 and I finaly get that I dont get it. And I thought I was listening.

    I thought I did educate myself. I thought I did research. I didnt realise how whitewashed it all was. How Id not even scratched the surface.

    Big f’ing deal right? Right. Im just one idiot, who now begins to understand how stupid he is. And saying this changes nothing, and accomplishes nothing, and probably wasted your time if you read it. But reading this, and all the replies i felt the need to say it. Just a long winded way of saying your right. Your right not because a white guy is validating you. Your right because you are, and Im only beginning to understand how right that is, and how wrong we are.

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  22. Ultimately the end game in the USA is that by 2040 or so, white people will no longer be the majority. That’s only 24 years away. If you’re white and you’re perceptive to this….maybe right now is the time to start making nice with everyone else. Maybe spend more time listening and learning than trying to dictate policy. Because in the very near future the chickens will come home to roost. Black people don’t have to do a thing but just sit back, relax, and wait.

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    1. But blacks will not become the majority. Hispanics and Asians will have the larger population and representation. Whites try. Believe it or not but, Hispanics and Asians will not offer the patience or understanding that whites do now. Hispanic and Asian Administrations will cut our financial aid and opportunities because lawless urbanites are a waste of tax dollars.
      We have pissed away our chance to make something of our selves. It’s only a matter of time; 24 years huh. Let’s just kick back and wait. We can wait like we have for 50 years. They can’t make it better for us and we don’t know how to any more. And many don’t want to

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  23. After WWII, Germans referred to it as “The Jewish Problem.”
    They should have called it the German Problem.
    Same here: it’s not a Black Problem, it’s a White Problem.
    They won’t begin to solve it until they own it.

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    1. Eric. What you write here is soul stirring, reeking with truth. First of all, I loved the article and have searched everywhere for the man who wrote it, without success. Can’t find his name. I think it’s probably one of the greatest pieces I’ve read. “White people are full of shit.” I should know! God. There is just so much right about his entire theme, his concept. I mean, I actually agree with him and everything he said. I am an old lady from the sixties and the Watts riots. I’ve seen a lot! I want to be a part of this thing. I’m not a white savior! But I cannot lose contact with this group of superior souls. My name is Lana Bogan. Facebook. I cannot lose this thread! Find me somehow!

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  24. Can I comment on this? I can comment on this, right? I don’t follow this blog and I’m white. Sorry, but this is probably one of the best articles I’ve read concerning racism and “black lives matter” and whatever the f**** else I’ve read and I just wanted to express my appreciation for this article because I’m white and because I see a billion issues and I’m tired of them all, but ultimately, I’m tired of the lack of education that white people have about black people and black people have about white people and God knows how much time I’ve spent analyzing everybody and making excuses for one side to the other, but this is better: to just shut up and to put my head down and just live who I am and get over whatever else is going on and just to be one of another group of people who doesn’t want to be a dick to black people. And in the end, to not say “God speed” or “good luck” or “What Up, brah (with my knowing/most sympathetic look)?” But to give a slight nod of admiration as black community gets its shit together first and easily surpasses the white community in class and dignity.

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  25. Absolutely hit the nail on the head, this guy has a way with words that truly touches me. So to the point, I say , right on MF tell it like it is !

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  26. I had a random thought the other day that sort of fits into this thread.

    I read a lot of commentary and thought pieces that project a boldness in the minds of many black people that I believe is vital to winning equality. They are not mincing words and they are definitely not hiding their emotions – the anger, the frustration, the disappointment. There is a much-needed declaration of ego by black activists that has been carefully exploited and suppressed by the majority white culture for a long time. This boldness is changing the rules of public discourse about race. People like Zachlinly understand that “polite” is not going to get us where we need to be. Concern for white people’s feelings is not going to get us where we need to be. Honesty will get us there. So, I read a lot about how white people are terrible. Most of the criticism is based in reality. Most of the stuff that people say about white people with regard to race is true. Of course we aren’t a monolith, any more than black people. Still, I can name real, vocal racists in my own family. It can be tough to be on the receiving end of so much anger and hate from PoC. But, at the end of the day, my life isn’t affected at all, whereas black people still live every moment under the weight of oppression from people like the racists in my family.

    For the white people who struggle to follow the conversation because it is not white people-friendly, here’s my thought:

    As a grown man, I can keep the part of me that wants to say, “But, wait, you’re painting all of us with the same brush. That’s not right,” in check. It’s a part of the process. I get it. I can engage in the discussion, or not. I’m an adult. I have that privilege. But, think of all the children of color who have ever grown up in America, who continue to grow up in a country that so recklessly handles their identity. From the day they are born, black children are inundated with messages that they are untrustworthy, unintelligent, criminal, lazy, violent, and disposable. They have no power to stand up and say “Bullshit!” They take all of it in, because that’s what children do. So, I don’t feel so bad when I read shit about how awful white people are. Because I’m a grown man and I can stand in my own place while change happens. Black children need to hear the strong voices coming out of black adults and see it not be just words, but change. I can live with that. If you’re white, so can you.

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  27. Just FYI if you’re trying to address race relations in this country it would help if you didn’t treat the 197 million white people in this country as a single entity with a single opinion.

    Because right now you’re coming off as a bigot.

    I’m sure after the first dozen paragraphs or so you probably beat there are a “good” white people. However once you proclaim that all white people are full of shit because of your interactions with Internet trolls I don’t care what the rest of the article says.

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  28. This is all fucking stupid, you say quit racism yet you encourage it, you say you want equal rights yet your post is clearly a one sided agenda, you say stop talking about it yet every example was you bashing against someone of another color in the same way, you say stop the talking and defending yet you clearly just did, you want the black lives matter movement to be accepted yet you clearly used more racial comments then most white people, you clearly just contradicted yourself on every level and claim we should not show ignorance yet the ignorance was blantantly visible and not only visible but your encouraging all brothers and sisters to be ignorant right along with you and by the comments most were so my hat goes off to you, job well done!! You have officially corrupted the minds of a few with your ignorance, we are all a little dumber now for listening/reading your theory of idocracy , you praise yourself and listen to the crowds roar for you and I’m sure you lose no sleep at night. Go ahead tell me I’m right , tell me your fine with your hateful statements, tell me your fine with your racists comments , tell me your fine with your ability to create and populate division amongst races, tell me how your better than other races , tell me how you know you don’t have to defend anything or justify it because we’re black, tell me how anything you stated in the blog was beneficial, positive and helpful toward achieving a goal of equality, tell me your good with everything you said…go ahead….debate it…still thinking….and I’m right, you know I am so say it….then after you do because reading this you already agreed to most of my comments until now, now is the challenge that you will deny, tell me your white too, tell me everything you say they do you just did too, tell me how now your one of them, tell everyone reading to compare your statements just made in your blog to EXACTLY what you say the white man is doing, see you wont do that, you won’t admit your white as white people, you act just like white people, you have an opinion just like white people, your thoughts matter just like white people, your cause and desires are just as important as white peoples, because in order to do that you would have to admit your blog was wrong, however admit your blog is right and you have to admit your the white man too, so which is it did you just lie to us or are you as white as the white man? See you messed up making this about race young man, make it about the issues, leave all the racial comments out, don’t justify your right with a bunch of wrongs, don’t let all the opinions of our race show to be true by your ignorance in theory, support the people that read your post don’t bring them down with your white on white bullshit. Delete my comment and be a coward but you know I’m right, your preaching ignorance and hate the same thing we are mad at white people about so what does that make us, wake up people , white america is not the problem, until we address ourselves we have no room to talk, there are issues on both sides and yes we get the worst of it but until we stop behaving just like them NOTHING CHANGES!!!

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